https://localbitcoins.com/country/AOHi,
I live in Angola, and nowdays its being hard to transfer Money to other countries. The only possible way to get bitcoins is using VISA wich everyday sees their limit lowered.
My idea is to have local people using bitcoins to do their business and their transfers worldwide, but im stuck with the options to buy bitcoins, because we would need it to be with local currency (Kwanza).
Is there anyway this could happen?
Hi,My understanding is the mining is a missed opportunity, but I may be wrong.
It sounds like the situation in Angola is not good at all all round.
I would look at selling an online service or product and accept bitcoins in order to acquire if you can't in Angola. You can trade and buy and sell bitcoins with any one in the world. The solution will present itself, just need time to ponder on it.
Having a BTM around would allow us to buy bitcoins in Kwanzas (AKZ)?https://localbitcoins.com/country/AOHi,
I live in Angola, and nowdays its being hard to transfer Money to other countries. The only possible way to get bitcoins is using VISA wich everyday sees their limit lowered.
My idea is to have local people using bitcoins to do their business and their transfers worldwide, but im stuck with the options to buy bitcoins, because we would need it to be with local currency (Kwanza).
Is there anyway this could happen?
I have also added Angola to the list of countries that require further research for a BTM.
Correct!Having a BTM around would allow us to buy bitcoins in Kwanzas (AKZ)?https://localbitcoins.com/country/AOHi,
I live in Angola, and nowdays its being hard to transfer Money to other countries. The only possible way to get bitcoins is using VISA wich everyday sees their limit lowered.
My idea is to have local people using bitcoins to do their business and their transfers worldwide, but im stuck with the options to buy bitcoins, because we would need it to be with local currency (Kwanza).
Is there anyway this could happen?
I have also added Angola to the list of countries that require further research for a BTM.
is there somethign we can help to make it happen in Angola?Correct!Having a BTM around would allow us to buy bitcoins in Kwanzas (AKZ)?
https://localbitcoins.com/country/AO
I have also added Angola to the list of countries that require further research for a BTM.
Yes, please send me as much information as you can about Bitcoin usage in Angola, or feel free to publicly post the information in this thread.is there somethign we can help to make it happen in Angola?Correct!
Having a BTM around would allow us to buy bitcoins in Kwanzas (AKZ)?
I'm exactly in the same situation of FilipeVenancio.
Thanks for your interest, I don't know if I can help much, but at this stage this is what I know.Yes, please send me as much information as you can about Bitcoin usage in Angola, or feel free to publicly post the information in this thread.is there somethign we can help to make it happen in Angola?
Correct!
I'm exactly in the same situation of FilipeVenancio.
Key interests are;
1) cities with decent technical structure in Angola
2) government regulation and or their stance on Bitcoin
3) acquisition of a money transmitter license
4) armored car carriers
5) media contacts
The more information you provide, the better we can analyze data and pin-point hot-spots to place BTM's.
Thank you for your contribution thus far, the power of Bitcoin and its people never ceases to amaze me!
Your post is empowering to make change!Thanks for your interest, I don't know if I can help much, but at this stage this is what I know.Yes, please send me as much information as you can about Bitcoin usage in Angola, or feel free to publicly post the information in this thread.
is there somethign we can help to make it happen in Angola?
I'm exactly in the same situation of FilipeVenancio.
Key interests are;
1) cities with decent technical structure in Angola
2) government regulation and or their stance on Bitcoin
3) acquisition of a money transmitter license
4) armored car carriers
5) media contacts
The more information you provide, the better we can analyze data and pin-point hot-spots to place BTM's.
Thank you for your contribution thus far, the power of Bitcoin and its people never ceases to amaze me!
1) Luanda and Lobito is probably the top 2 city's, Luanda is the Capital, and is overpopulated. Regarding the Technical Structures, there are already a lot of good structures here, the problem is Internet prices, and Energy(really cheap energy, but everywhere there is a need for a UPS, since there is a lot of cuts)
2) Government regulation I have no idea, but the National Bank of Angola is: http://www.bna.ao/
Regarding the Bitcoin, there is no knowledge of that Technology here. Some people, specially people that come from other country's to work here know about it, but there is no way to exchange the kwanzas for Bitcoin yet. We expats win a lot of money in Kwanzas, good salary's, where 3000€ gets reduced to 1000€ if we go exchange the kwanzas on the streets "Black Markets" because the banks have wait queues for international transfers of 2, 3 or 4 months.
For reference:
Bank rate is 183 Kwanzas per Euro, but banks don't have euros.
On the street people are buying for 350+ kwanzas per Euro.
So, as you can see there is a lot of margin and profit. Bitcoin, could short this gap, and make profit as well.
3) No idea how that can be done here in Angola
4) There are company here, that do the transport of money of banks, etc, different security company's that I know off.
5) There are Televisions here, like TVZimbo(private one, but is considered from the opposition), TPA1 and TPA2 (from the Government)
But main distribution of the "know-how" and the exchanges, are made via online journals, and social media like Facebook. (Almost everyday we see the expats community's groups of Angola, someone asking to buy Dollar/Euro with Kwanzas, and some people selling).
I don't know how this things are done and processed, and I know that Angolan government is very strict about everything. But I'm 100% sure that the 1st Exchanger, trader, or entity to allow people here to exchange Kwanzas to Bitcoins, can profit a lot. Also, there are here some Exchangers, like Unicambios, Realtransfer and GooTransfer that operate here ( now very limited also, because they don't have dollars/euros) and last week they were using rates: 289 kwanzas per euro, while the banks do 185 kwanzas per euro, and in BNA (national bank) the rate is 179.
I'm just seeking, and digging if I can find alternatives for the money that I have stuck here, me and a lot of other people, because I'm not willing to lose 60% of my savings, just to get euros or dollars because the banks don't have foreign currencys....
I don't know how to thank you. Not by the thank you, but for your engagement.Your post is empowering to make change!Thanks for your interest, I don't know if I can help much, but at this stage this is what I know.
Yes, please send me as much information as you can about Bitcoin usage in Angola, or feel free to publicly post the information in this thread.
Key interests are;
1) cities with decent technical structure in Angola
2) government regulation and or their stance on Bitcoin
3) acquisition of a money transmitter license
4) armored car carriers
5) media contacts
The more information you provide, the better we can analyze data and pin-point hot-spots to place BTM's.
Thank you for your contribution thus far, the power of Bitcoin and its people never ceases to amaze me!
1) Luanda and Lobito is probably the top 2 city's, Luanda is the Capital, and is overpopulated. Regarding the Technical Structures, there are already a lot of good structures here, the problem is Internet prices, and Energy(really cheap energy, but everywhere there is a need for a UPS, since there is a lot of cuts)
2) Government regulation I have no idea, but the National Bank of Angola is: http://www.bna.ao/
Regarding the Bitcoin, there is no knowledge of that Technology here. Some people, specially people that come from other country's to work here know about it, but there is no way to exchange the kwanzas for Bitcoin yet. We expats win a lot of money in Kwanzas, good salary's, where 3000€ gets reduced to 1000€ if we go exchange the kwanzas on the streets "Black Markets" because the banks have wait queues for international transfers of 2, 3 or 4 months.
For reference:
Bank rate is 183 Kwanzas per Euro, but banks don't have euros.
On the street people are buying for 350+ kwanzas per Euro.
So, as you can see there is a lot of margin and profit. Bitcoin, could short this gap, and make profit as well.
3) No idea how that can be done here in Angola
4) There are company here, that do the transport of money of banks, etc, different security company's that I know off.
5) There are Televisions here, like TVZimbo(private one, but is considered from the opposition), TPA1 and TPA2 (from the Government)
But main distribution of the "know-how" and the exchanges, are made via online journals, and social media like Facebook. (Almost everyday we see the expats community's groups of Angola, someone asking to buy Dollar/Euro with Kwanzas, and some people selling).
I don't know how this things are done and processed, and I know that Angolan government is very strict about everything. But I'm 100% sure that the 1st Exchanger, trader, or entity to allow people here to exchange Kwanzas to Bitcoins, can profit a lot. Also, there are here some Exchangers, like Unicambios, Realtransfer and GooTransfer that operate here ( now very limited also, because they don't have dollars/euros) and last week they were using rates: 289 kwanzas per euro, while the banks do 185 kwanzas per euro, and in BNA (national bank) the rate is 179.
I'm just seeking, and digging if I can find alternatives for the money that I have stuck here, me and a lot of other people, because I'm not willing to lose 60% of my savings, just to get euros or dollars because the banks don't have foreign currencys....
It seems that Angola has a long way to go to provide its citizens and visitors of the country with accessibility to basic finance.
When citizens have to go to black-markets to sell their hard-earned currency, it's not good.
On the bright side, it is nothing that can't be fixed with funding and further infrastructure. Bitcoin will provide this and I will work hard to help provide it.
Check your PM, I have sent you a thank you
Good to see you guys kept taling,Your post is empowering to make change!Thanks for your interest, I don't know if I can help much, but at this stage this is what I know.
Yes, please send me as much information as you can about Bitcoin usage in Angola, or feel free to publicly post the information in this thread.
Key interests are;
1) cities with decent technical structure in Angola
2) government regulation and or their stance on Bitcoin
3) acquisition of a money transmitter license
4) armored car carriers
5) media contacts
The more information you provide, the better we can analyze data and pin-point hot-spots to place BTM's.
Thank you for your contribution thus far, the power of Bitcoin and its people never ceases to amaze me!
1) Luanda and Lobito is probably the top 2 city's, Luanda is the Capital, and is overpopulated. Regarding the Technical Structures, there are already a lot of good structures here, the problem is Internet prices, and Energy(really cheap energy, but everywhere there is a need for a UPS, since there is a lot of cuts)
2) Government regulation I have no idea, but the National Bank of Angola is: http://www.bna.ao/
Regarding the Bitcoin, there is no knowledge of that Technology here. Some people, specially people that come from other country's to work here know about it, but there is no way to exchange the kwanzas for Bitcoin yet. We expats win a lot of money in Kwanzas, good salary's, where 3000€ gets reduced to 1000€ if we go exchange the kwanzas on the streets "Black Markets" because the banks have wait queues for international transfers of 2, 3 or 4 months.
For reference:
Bank rate is 183 Kwanzas per Euro, but banks don't have euros.
On the street people are buying for 350+ kwanzas per Euro.
So, as you can see there is a lot of margin and profit. Bitcoin, could short this gap, and make profit as well.
3) No idea how that can be done here in Angola
4) There are company here, that do the transport of money of banks, etc, different security company's that I know off.
5) There are Televisions here, like TVZimbo(private one, but is considered from the opposition), TPA1 and TPA2 (from the Government)
But main distribution of the "know-how" and the exchanges, are made via online journals, and social media like Facebook. (Almost everyday we see the expats community's groups of Angola, someone asking to buy Dollar/Euro with Kwanzas, and some people selling).
I don't know how this things are done and processed, and I know that Angolan government is very strict about everything. But I'm 100% sure that the 1st Exchanger, trader, or entity to allow people here to exchange Kwanzas to Bitcoins, can profit a lot. Also, there are here some Exchangers, like Unicambios, Realtransfer and GooTransfer that operate here ( now very limited also, because they don't have dollars/euros) and last week they were using rates: 289 kwanzas per euro, while the banks do 185 kwanzas per euro, and in BNA (national bank) the rate is 179.
I'm just seeking, and digging if I can find alternatives for the money that I have stuck here, me and a lot of other people, because I'm not willing to lose 60% of my savings, just to get euros or dollars because the banks don't have foreign currencys....
It seems that Angola has a long way to go to provide its citizens and visitors of the country with accessibility to basic finance.
When citizens have to go to black-markets to sell their hard-earned currency, it's not good.
On the bright side, it is nothing that can't be fixed with funding and further infrastructure. Bitcoin will provide this and I will work hard to help provide it.
Check your PM, I have sent you a thank you
I don't know how to thank you. Not by the thank you, but for your engagement.Your post is empowering to make change!
Thanks for your interest, I don't know if I can help much, but at this stage this is what I know.
1) Luanda and Lobito is probably the top 2 city's, Luanda is the Capital, and is overpopulated. Regarding the Technical Structures, there are already a lot of good structures here, the problem is Internet prices, and Energy(really cheap energy, but everywhere there is a need for a UPS, since there is a lot of cuts)
2) Government regulation I have no idea, but the National Bank of Angola is: http://www.bna.ao/
Regarding the Bitcoin, there is no knowledge of that Technology here. Some people, specially people that come from other country's to work here know about it, but there is no way to exchange the kwanzas for Bitcoin yet. We expats win a lot of money in Kwanzas, good salary's, where 3000€ gets reduced to 1000€ if we go exchange the kwanzas on the streets "Black Markets" because the banks have wait queues for international transfers of 2, 3 or 4 months.
For reference:
Bank rate is 183 Kwanzas per Euro, but banks don't have euros.
On the street people are buying for 350+ kwanzas per Euro.
So, as you can see there is a lot of margin and profit. Bitcoin, could short this gap, and make profit as well.
3) No idea how that can be done here in Angola
4) There are company here, that do the transport of money of banks, etc, different security company's that I know off.
5) There are Televisions here, like TVZimbo(private one, but is considered from the opposition), TPA1 and TPA2 (from the Government)
But main distribution of the "know-how" and the exchanges, are made via online journals, and social media like Facebook. (Almost everyday we see the expats community's groups of Angola, someone asking to buy Dollar/Euro with Kwanzas, and some people selling).
I don't know how this things are done and processed, and I know that Angolan government is very strict about everything. But I'm 100% sure that the 1st Exchanger, trader, or entity to allow people here to exchange Kwanzas to Bitcoins, can profit a lot. Also, there are here some Exchangers, like Unicambios, Realtransfer and GooTransfer that operate here ( now very limited also, because they don't have dollars/euros) and last week they were using rates: 289 kwanzas per euro, while the banks do 185 kwanzas per euro, and in BNA (national bank) the rate is 179.
I'm just seeking, and digging if I can find alternatives for the money that I have stuck here, me and a lot of other people, because I'm not willing to lose 60% of my savings, just to get euros or dollars because the banks don't have foreign currencys....
It seems that Angola has a long way to go to provide its citizens and visitors of the country with accessibility to basic finance.
When citizens have to go to black-markets to sell their hard-earned currency, it's not good.
On the bright side, it is nothing that can't be fixed with funding and further infrastructure. Bitcoin will provide this and I will work hard to help provide it.
Check your PM, I have sent you a thank you
I'm pretty sure, that I can help you in any matter that you need.
With this lack of foreign currency, Bitcoin will be embraced by a lot of people here, to make a way to get a coin to use outside of the country.
I'll pm you, and would like to get more in detail, about what I can help you guys to go ahead with this, and to expand this Bitcoin borders.
That would be excellent, thank you!Good to see you guys kept taling,Your post is empowering to make change!
Thanks for your interest, I don't know if I can help much, but at this stage this is what I know.
1) Luanda and Lobito is probably the top 2 city's, Luanda is the Capital, and is overpopulated. Regarding the Technical Structures, there are already a lot of good structures here, the problem is Internet prices, and Energy(really cheap energy, but everywhere there is a need for a UPS, since there is a lot of cuts)
2) Government regulation I have no idea, but the National Bank of Angola is: http://www.bna.ao/
Regarding the Bitcoin, there is no knowledge of that Technology here. Some people, specially people that come from other country's to work here know about it, but there is no way to exchange the kwanzas for Bitcoin yet. We expats win a lot of money in Kwanzas, good salary's, where 3000€ gets reduced to 1000€ if we go exchange the kwanzas on the streets "Black Markets" because the banks have wait queues for international transfers of 2, 3 or 4 months.
For reference:
Bank rate is 183 Kwanzas per Euro, but banks don't have euros.
On the street people are buying for 350+ kwanzas per Euro.
So, as you can see there is a lot of margin and profit. Bitcoin, could short this gap, and make profit as well.
3) No idea how that can be done here in Angola
4) There are company here, that do the transport of money of banks, etc, different security company's that I know off.
5) There are Televisions here, like TVZimbo(private one, but is considered from the opposition), TPA1 and TPA2 (from the Government)
But main distribution of the "know-how" and the exchanges, are made via online journals, and social media like Facebook. (Almost everyday we see the expats community's groups of Angola, someone asking to buy Dollar/Euro with Kwanzas, and some people selling).
I don't know how this things are done and processed, and I know that Angolan government is very strict about everything. But I'm 100% sure that the 1st Exchanger, trader, or entity to allow people here to exchange Kwanzas to Bitcoins, can profit a lot. Also, there are here some Exchangers, like Unicambios, Realtransfer and GooTransfer that operate here ( now very limited also, because they don't have dollars/euros) and last week they were using rates: 289 kwanzas per euro, while the banks do 185 kwanzas per euro, and in BNA (national bank) the rate is 179.
I'm just seeking, and digging if I can find alternatives for the money that I have stuck here, me and a lot of other people, because I'm not willing to lose 60% of my savings, just to get euros or dollars because the banks don't have foreign currencys....
It seems that Angola has a long way to go to provide its citizens and visitors of the country with accessibility to basic finance.
When citizens have to go to black-markets to sell their hard-earned currency, it's not good.
On the bright side, it is nothing that can't be fixed with funding and further infrastructure. Bitcoin will provide this and I will work hard to help provide it.
Check your PM, I have sent you a thank you
I'll try to check with some of my clients connected with the estate if i can get a meeting or a phone talk with someone that can tell me whats their point of view about bitcoin and how to obtain a Money transmitter license.
Thanks great. If I can help you with anything, please let me know. A Money transmitter license would be a great step. I truly believe that Angola needs to open her eyes, and people here be able to trade, sell buy everywhere without borders, and allowed to do business.Good to see you guys kept taling,Your post is empowering to make change!
Thanks for your interest, I don't know if I can help much, but at this stage this is what I know.
1) Luanda and Lobito is probably the top 2 city's, Luanda is the Capital, and is overpopulated. Regarding the Technical Structures, there are already a lot of good structures here, the problem is Internet prices, and Energy(really cheap energy, but everywhere there is a need for a UPS, since there is a lot of cuts)
2) Government regulation I have no idea, but the National Bank of Angola is: http://www.bna.ao/
Regarding the Bitcoin, there is no knowledge of that Technology here. Some people, specially people that come from other country's to work here know about it, but there is no way to exchange the kwanzas for Bitcoin yet. We expats win a lot of money in Kwanzas, good salary's, where 3000€ gets reduced to 1000€ if we go exchange the kwanzas on the streets "Black Markets" because the banks have wait queues for international transfers of 2, 3 or 4 months.
For reference:
Bank rate is 183 Kwanzas per Euro, but banks don't have euros.
On the street people are buying for 350+ kwanzas per Euro.
So, as you can see there is a lot of margin and profit. Bitcoin, could short this gap, and make profit as well.
3) No idea how that can be done here in Angola
4) There are company here, that do the transport of money of banks, etc, different security company's that I know off.
5) There are Televisions here, like TVZimbo(private one, but is considered from the opposition), TPA1 and TPA2 (from the Government)
But main distribution of the "know-how" and the exchanges, are made via online journals, and social media like Facebook. (Almost everyday we see the expats community's groups of Angola, someone asking to buy Dollar/Euro with Kwanzas, and some people selling).
I don't know how this things are done and processed, and I know that Angolan government is very strict about everything. But I'm 100% sure that the 1st Exchanger, trader, or entity to allow people here to exchange Kwanzas to Bitcoins, can profit a lot. Also, there are here some Exchangers, like Unicambios, Realtransfer and GooTransfer that operate here ( now very limited also, because they don't have dollars/euros) and last week they were using rates: 289 kwanzas per euro, while the banks do 185 kwanzas per euro, and in BNA (national bank) the rate is 179.
I'm just seeking, and digging if I can find alternatives for the money that I have stuck here, me and a lot of other people, because I'm not willing to lose 60% of my savings, just to get euros or dollars because the banks don't have foreign currencys....
It seems that Angola has a long way to go to provide its citizens and visitors of the country with accessibility to basic finance.
When citizens have to go to black-markets to sell their hard-earned currency, it's not good.
On the bright side, it is nothing that can't be fixed with funding and further infrastructure. Bitcoin will provide this and I will work hard to help provide it.
Check your PM, I have sent you a thank you
I'll try to check with some of my clients connected with the estate if i can get a meeting or a phone talk with someone that can tell me whats their point of view about bitcoin and how to obtain a Money transmitter license.
Hi guys! I need to buy some bitcoins in Luanda urgently.
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