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While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:24 pm

The recent rally of the Bitcoin price to $3,000 paused with inevitable corrections and the price moved to the level of about $2,750 per BTC. Meanwhile, the main competitor of the world’s largest cryptocurrency - Ethereum (ETH) is pushing up.

To date, Bitcoin is the leading cryptocurrency with a $45 billion market cap, a big price that has reached its historical maximum high on June 11 ($3,005) and a huge daily trade volume of $2.7 billion.

You can read the full article and take part in the discussion here: https://coinidol.com/bitcoin-slows-down ... oes-turbo/
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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:23 pm

For the Ethereum the future. It is more convenient for real life. Transactions are faster. It is not surprising that the future national crypto-currencies have taken the Ethereum as a basis. The price will definitely increase

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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:00 pm

Well, obciously there is no so much time till ETH will be more expencive than BTC
It is doubtless. But do u have some prognosises when it would be? :?:

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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:17 pm

The recent rally of the Bitcoin price to $3,000 paused with inevitable corrections and the price moved to the level of about $2,750 per BTC. Meanwhile, the main competitor of the world’s largest cryptocurrency - Ethereum (ETH) is pushing up.
There's a misconception here. Ethereum is not a competitor of Bitcoin. Ethereum is not a public currency. Overstock.com can't and will not be accepting Ether as a form of payment for retail product purchases.

Ethereum is not a true "crypto-currency". Ethereum the company offers a blockchain platform that companies can use for their own project. Ether is the currency that's used on that platform. The word "currency" does not mean "equal to the dollar/yen/yuan/euro/pound", it means "a unit of value that can be used for exchange of [insert data exchanged in said project here] across a blockchain platform".

People can invest in Ether as a speculation on the growth that their product (a blockchain template to be used for projects), but it is not a currency that anyone can use to buy any good or service like Bitcoin. The growth of the price of Ether while Bitcoin declines has correlation (bc it's possible that speculators are trading between the two) but it's not a causal relationship that would imply Ether could overtake Bitcoin as a currency.
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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:42 pm

There's a misconception here. Ethereum is not a competitor of Bitcoin. Ethereum is not a public currency. Overstock.com can't and will not be accepting Ether as a form of payment for retail product purchases.
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know much about Ether. Can you explain further how it couldn't be used as a currency in retail transactions?
People can invest in Ether as a speculation on the growth that their product (a blockchain template to be used for projects), but it is not a currency that anyone can use to buy any good or service like Bitcoin.
But if it has value, and is transferable from account to account, I don't see how that prevents it from being used as a currency to buy things? Is there some technical limitation of Ether that I'm missing? Aren't there several startups already accepting Ether for payments?
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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:28 am

Great questions. I'm in no way an expert, but I'll answer them the best I can and direct you to better resources.
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know much about Ether. Can you explain further how it couldn't be used as a currency in retail transactions?
Simple answer, Ethereum wasn't designed as a retail or monetary currency. It was designed to provide a blockchain platform that can be used to launch any project you or a business or a government agency wants, where exchanging, recording, or storing information in a blockchain ledger would make the project easier to conduct or more reliable. Ethereum also provides a community computing system (like the internet, all computers connected together) and Ether is the unit of measure for computing power.

Let's go to the source, the "what is Ether?" question in the FAQ for Ethereum.org: https://www.ethereum.org/ether

"Ether is a necessary element -- a fuel -- for operating the distributed application platform Ethereum. It is a form of payment made by the clients of the platform to the machines executing the requested operations. To put it another way, ether is the incentive ensuring that developers write quality applications (wasteful code costs more), and that the network remains healthy (people are compensated for their contributed resources)."

Here's another good guide to Ethereum: https://blockgeeks.com/guides/what-is-ethereum/
But if it has value, and is transferable from account to account, I don't see how that prevents it from being used as a currency to buy things?
This is the best question...the answer is "nothing". Nothing prevents it from being some currency that retailers can take. It just doesn't exist in that format today. According to their own website, this is not the use for Ether. But the only thing that limits what it could be used for in the future is our own will to create it.
Aren't there several startups already accepting Ether for payments?
The startups have used Ethereum as a cowdfunding mechanism and to start new crypto-currency coins.

E.g., you can use Ethereum's platform to start your own currency and since you're using Ethereum's blockchain platform you need to pay for that computing power. So you create your coin, call it GreyVern, and create a supply of 10,000,000 coins using Ethereum's code. You need that coin you just created to have an exchange rate to Ether to represent the cost your coin takes in computing power to use their blockchain platform. That value of GreyVern coin (I presume) can go up or down based on supply/demand and also how much computing power it's using from the blockchain platform. What you personally distribute that GreyVern coin for is up to you - it could be a public currency to compete with Bitcoin or it could be an internal currency for some organization you have or it could be currency for a University to charge for credit hours or it could be for some loyalty program, etc.

One last source for you: https://www.fastcompany.com/3046385/mee ... -of-things

A good quote from that article is..."Ether will most likely always be associated with a monetary value as long as humans develop the code for the blockchain applications. So long as there is demand to run these applications, Ether’s supply of available computing power will be valuable."

I hope this helps. And I know others here are more knowledgeable than I am, so please contribute, confirm, and correct me as needed!
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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:20 pm

Yes, it survived multiple hard forks, but that was before a single coin was worth $80. There’s more at stake today than ever before - Ethereum has to build and maintain trust, and for that to happen it needs to stay stable.

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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:29 pm

Ethereum Classic uptrend continued after the long flat. But it didn’t last long. Having reached the upward peak, the demand sharply increased and that was a great opportunity for big sells.

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Re: While Bitcoin Slows Down Ethereum Goes Turbo

Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:39 pm

Ethereum has to build and maintain trust, and for that to happen it needs to stay stable. Completelly agree!

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