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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:39 pm

Ethereum has now successfully hard-forked 2 times on short notice. There is no longer any reason to believe
"anti-HF FUD." - BIP-101
a hardfork is an election. a softfork is dictatorial succession. /u/nullc and other core devs are afraid that the vote won't go their way, so a hardfork is not an option for them. In fact, they would be voted out of office. It's just like a dictator who is legitimately elected, passes a bunch of laws, then halts elections and implements censorship to retain power forever.
"It works for a while, but not forever." - jeanduluoz
That's why ViaBTC and the Bitcoin.com pool are fighting against this insanity
"that moves the fee income to the hubs (banks)." - Shock_The_Stream
people have been and will continue to sell/leave Bitcoin
"because of Core's terrible mismanagement." - _-________________-_
Gavin in charge = Bullish for BTC price, Blockstream in charge = Largely sideways stagnation for BTC price with pump & dumps
"here & there." - bigcoinguy
I don't see any danger. ETC got pumped by the Blockstream crowd who paid through the nose for some ETC which has subsequently lost 80% of its value against ETH
"since the pump." - huntingisland
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:44 pm

Complaints from users, Day 90 (19/10/2016):

So yeah... its taking over an hour now to send any amount of BTC
"$1 or $100 or $1000... Its taking forever anymore for the first confirmation." - cryptoreporter
There's like a 17,000 transaction backlog
"atm." - nobodybelievesyou
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:54 pm

I don't think BU is the answer to any problems.

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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:18 pm

hard fork
"to remove the issue" - paulh691
Petition your mining pool
"to switch to BU" - nelsonpk
Or just switch your mining pool
"to one that does." - arnili
Switch to a pool that supports BU now.
"Please, all lazy people, just do it, the sooner we take out the problem, the better... and after the fork party, we will be able to concentrate on more important things." - paoloaga
The 24 hashrate for bigger blocks is at 18%! This includes variance, but that's the highest it's ever been. The Bitcoin.com pool and ViaBTC are doing great.
"Look at all these blocks. http://nodecounter.com/" - BiggerBlocksPlease
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:05 am

I have a three hour old transaction
"still with no confirmations." - Justam1nute
I have mine since 1:45 est with no confirmations
"starting to worry" - Kmhowe77
28k unconfirned transactions. Huge backlog. This is why the size limit needs increased. Instead if confirming in 10 minutes,
"its taking 3 hours." - wetseals
28k unconfirned transactions. Huge backlog. This is why the size limit needs increased. Instead if confirming in 10 minutes,
"its taking 3 hours." - wetseals
I've been waiting
"5 hours." - gimme_my_bitcoin
So I sent 0.0167757 BTC to an address and paid a transaction Fee of 0.0002057 BTC (It was the blockchain recommended amount?) I sent 0.00398 with a smaller fee earlier today but it was less Bytes.
"Will my transaction go through?" - Ebollie
Wow, I'm finally experiencing network congestion firsthand
"First off, I've been a big block supporter since Gavin released those well thought out blogs about increasing the block size back in 2014 (maybe 2015?). It's always made sense to me that we should scale naturally by raising the block size, which seems like the simplest way to improve our transaction limitation. That said, I've yet to experience any delays using my wallets because they always estimated fees properly and got my transactions on the blockchain quickly enough...Today, I'm finally experiencing delays. I sent two transactions over 5 hours ago now and they still don't have any confirmations. I'm not surprised, but it's interesting that as a "regular joe" bitcoin user I'm finally getting stung by network congestion. Hopefully other users, particularly small blockers, start to experience this first hand and use it as an eye opener to push for change, more specifically bigger blocks via Bitcoin Unlimited!" - Edit0r88
I have never seen it this bad
"around 35,000 backlog and growing" - hunter1212
Mine is also stuck for long time now
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:33 pm

Complaints from users, Day 91 (20/10/2016):

Where is my btc?
"I transferred 3 deposits to bitblend about 12 hours ago." - cryptoreporter
You're not alone man.
"I also got 2 txn stuck for almost 19hrs now" - jQiNoBi
Can anyone help me I have been waiting 17 hours
"for a confirmation" - Bitcointrader321
I'm on hour 3 right now...
"0 Confirmations." - spthegod
So can anyone estimate how long this will take to resolve?
"I need to buy something that I've agreed a price on and have to do it in a certain time frame or i lose the bid..." - freshbus37
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:27 pm

A Petition to Bitcoin Miners to join ViaBTC and Bitcoin.Com in mining Bitcoin Unlimited
"I am just an ordinary person and a small holder of Btc since 2013. When I first read the Bitcoin Whitepaper I immediately realized this was a revolutionary concept. Nothing in the early days led me to believe the block size would be locked at 1mb - and I would have been much less enthusiastic about bitcoin if I had known it had that limitation.

While I am not against well-planned scaling solutions on top of the Bitcoin network, I believe that true security of bitcoin and in its value comes through a multiplicity of uses of the foundation Bitcoin network and thus I believe that it should be allowed to scale on chain.

For those miners sitting on the fence not willing to take a lead in setting the direction and waiting for others to decide, I ask you to please consider voices like mine and care about the enthusiasts for bitcoin, the believers in the original principles of the bitcoin whitepaper, and the long term holders - through thick and thin - who maintain value in this coin and thus give your newly mined blocks their value.

I am hopeful others who agree with me will leave a message in this thread also asking for your consideration.

I want to believe in bitcoin again and buy bitcoins again. Miners, if you agree with what is said here, please show that you will act independently on your own principles and show us a sign. Don't wait for everyone else to move first - lets make bitcoin about freedom of individuals as it was intended to be, not control via small collections of powerful forces." - papabitcoin
Well said.
"Bitcoin is currently being held back by a small group of central planners, who are funded by corporations whose interests do not align with ours. It's time to take the network back and resume growth." - cryptomic
Beautifully said. I am with you and agree 100%
"I want to believe in bitcoin again, also." - BTC_number_1_fan
Here here,
"completely agree." - marcoski711
I agree
"so much." - redfacedquark
Hear, hear
"Well put. +1 on this petition!" - chinawat
Where can I sign? You seem to have summarized my feelings
"perfectly." - ThePenultimateOne
I also was once very enthusiastic about Bitcoin. It's fading away now.. Please take action
"and don't let blockstream dictate us this way!" - saddit42
I approve
"this message" - jcnike
Agree!
"I read the whitepaper early 2011 and began mining bitcoin when it was less than $10. I have recently blew the dust off my GPU mining rig (sitting idle since 2013) and have it mining BU. Keep spreading the word!" - mohrt
A petition?! Great.
"Where do I sign?" - ViperfishAU
AMEN to that.
"Bitcoin's appeal was it's beautiful simplicity. I firmly believe in on-chain scaling, because it's the way of least resistance and least indirections. In my experience as software dev I always try to reduce indirect solutions. So what would be more obvious? Gradually scaling one variable from 1mb to 4/8/10/20/3000mb or create a whole new ecosystem that promises the same outcome and creates more problems that we did not think of in the first place. If we choose the latter, I will gradually offscale my fundings out of Bitcoin." - kaitje
I recommend the miners to mine Bitcoin Unlimited blocks and to stop using Bitcoin Core and other Blockstream products.
"That will be a profitable decision for us Bitcoin early adopters and investors, miners, and for every other bitcoin user except for the Blockstream company. Their goals are simply not compatible with the goals of the Bitcoin users.

The Bitcoin exchange rate has stagnated since November 2013 for a reason, and that reason is Blockstream leadership. We need to have new leaders who understand Bitcoin better, and the best and most popular candidate is the Bitcoin Unlimited project and team. We early adopter big blockers support the Bitcoin Unlimited project and team, and so should the miners and mining pools.

We already have 10 % (global hashing power) support from Viabtc and 2 % from Roger Ver's Bitcoin.com pool, so it's only a matter of time now. They are mining using Bitcoin Unlimited with no problems, so there's no reason to wait anymore. Join us sooner rather than later and you'll profit from an increased Bitcoin exchange rate sooner rather than later.

A currency with more users is a currency that is more valuable. Bitcoin Unlimited allows a higher network capacity than today's embarrassingly few 3 transactions per second. Satoshi Nakamoto intended Bitcoin to become the global reserve currency, so let's make that happen. Bitcoin Unlimited has solved the blocksize limit debate in a permanent way, with its adaptive way of increasing the capacity limit.

Test it, verify that it works as you expected, and start using it with all of your hashing power just like Viabtc has done and the Bitcoin.com pool is doing. " - chinawat
You have to PAY blockstream (or any other Hub) in order to use the LN. That makes them a middleman that Bitcoin was meant to prevent.
"Peer-to-peer not user-to-centralized-hubs-to-user." - Annapurna317
For a long time I just lurked and didn't say much. When I saw the extreme censorship coming from rBitcoin I finally realized I needed to speak up.
"Unfortunatley it's not enough, because I too was banned from rBitcoin so I can't even be a voice in other subs that talk about Bitcoin." - blockologist
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:07 pm

Complaints from users, Day 92 (26/10/2016):

Over 52,000
"Unconfirmed Transactions" - Egon_1
I've been waiting 6 hours
"and still no confirmations." - DctrJewish
What is taking so long
"Hi guys I sent a payment earlier today and it has been 6 hours and it still has 0 confirmations any idea why" - PopsWC
Same issue. 4 hours, 31 peers, 0 confirmations. d4c390b3b2c6b59b36b5d78b6340b491434d877181e877092721b05f3e829ed7: Seen by 31 peers.
"Pending/unconfirmed." - alphonsobidoya
very slow
"and i blame blockstream core" - helpergodd
Blockchain very slow now
Why do transactions take forever?
"I am a super bitcoin amatuer, mostly just buying games with Bitcoin and whatnot. I remember 2-3 years ago it took around 2-3 minutes to get a confirmation, now it's almost half an hour. What the fuck happened ?" - druskim
A private company called Blockstream Inc. took over the development and they are trying to capitalize on the fact that Bitcoin has very very limited capacity. Of course this capacity could be increased by simply changing a single constant, but then the Blockstream business model would collapse.
"As a consequence every Bitcoin user has to suffer while Blockstream still thinks they will earn big money by making Bitcoin worse and worse." - coin-master
So what the fuck do I do ?
"I sent 0.7 bitcoins around 3 hours ago and STILL 0 confirmation" - druskim
All Coinbase transactions
"stuck." - thisusernamelovesyou
Can't send money using Electrum
"I'm trying to send money and I'm getting this error: "error: The transaction was rejected by network rules.(64: too-long-mempool-chain)" What can I do? I really need to send money now and electrum is not allowing me." - eladio19
No confirmations after 12+ hours,
"what to do?" - BehindU555
I lost my BTC money?
"yesterday I deposited 16$ in my BTC account, had it "Pending" since yesterday" - Tengokuq
20 hours later an 0 confimations
"I've bought a DLC from Steam yesterday and payed with BTC with my Ledger Wallet like I always do (it works over BitPay). I wondered why I couldn't install the DLC the whole evening, even if the payment was successful.

Today I checked my E-Mails and I got this from Steam: There was an error with a recent Steam purchase. We've saved your cart (including discounts) for 72 hours so you can attempt your purchase again. Click here to repurchase. This cart will expire on 28 Oct @ 3:00pm PDT.

Then I checked the BTC transaction and it still has 0 confirmations -> https://blockchain.info/tx/993592943bc3 ... aa405d696c" - Shizora_GER
LocalBitcoins lying on their blockchain and delaying my deposit!?
"EDIT: Incoming and outgoing transaction on LocalBitcoins are not working. DO NOT DEPOST. Good thing they told me before I deposited an hour before the fucking warning came. (sarcasm)

This is the transaction when you click the link to LocalBitcoin's own block explorer: https://www.localbitcoinschain.com/addr ... H?filter=2

And this is when I look at the same address up on blockchain.info: https://blockchain.info/address/1KcLxmy ... mzThguDCzH And the tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/001f5d6d1bfe ... dfc5f7ce85

It has said "Confirmed in about" "20 minutes" for about 4 hours now as well...

LBC Account: http://imgur.com/WUqYLDZ

EDIT: now LocalBitcoin's explorer is offline. Here's a picture I took right before it went offline lying about my transaction: https://i.imgsafe.org/fd2c6788ed.png

EDIT2: Looks like they made the whole fucking transaction up: https://blockchain.info/search?search=+ ... dfc5f7ce85+

Still at "Confirmed in about" 20 minutes.

EDIT3: Localbitcoinschain.com went down at around 6:30-6:40. Ten minutes later it is back up and the transaction link I posted above now shows nothing, but in my account it still shows this: http://i.imgsafe.org/fd4b01c8d8.png

Screenshot of Localbitcoinschain.com right before it went offline: https://i.imgsafe.org/fd2c6788ed.png

EDIT4: This just appeared on LocalBitcoins. Fuck. https://i.imgsafe.org/fdb0a132f7.png" - Ermandfa
Transaction not confirming using bread wallet
"Over 5 hours not confirming... status shows seen by 2 of 3 peers waiting for confirmation... what's going on?" - lurkswell
15 hours
"not one confirmation" - Kmhowe77
[Coinbase] Stuck at "Pending"
"with 0 Confirmations." - tmjpain
I sent two transactions today about an hour apart and both have been stuck at pending
"for hours now." - EnvidiaProductions
What is wrong? Transaction not
"confirmed" - Vertje
Transaction unconfirmed
"after 8 hours" - lyledylandy
Receiving and Sending
"stuck?" - Onepleb
Whats up with Bitcoin ATM ?
"Any help or information on the deposit delays??" - bitcoinwholeseller
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:22 am

You've been warned more than a year ago: Why increasing the max block size is urgent
"Perhaps the most common objection I hear to raising the maximum block size from one megabyte is that “blocks aren’t full yet, so we don’t have to do anything (yet).”

It is true that we’re not yet at the hard-coded one megabyte block size limit; on average, blocks are 30-40% full today.

There is a very good blog post by David Hudson at hashingit.com analyzing what will happen on the network as we approach 100% full blocks. Please visit that link for full details, but basically he points out there is a mismatch between when transactions are created and when blocks are found– and that mismatch means very bad things start to happen on the network as the one megabyte limit is reached.

Transactions are created steadily over time, as people spend their bitcoin. There are daily and weekly cycles in transaction volume, but over any ten-minute period the number of transactions will be roughly equal to the number of transactions in the previous or next ten minute period.

Blocks, however, are created via a random Poisson process. Sometimes a lot of blocks are found in an hour, sometimes all the miners will be unlucky and very few (or none!) will be found in a hour.

The mismatch between the steady submission of transactions to the network and the random Poisson distribution of found blocks means we will never have blocks that are 100% full all of the time. Sometimes miners will find a lot of blocks in a row, clearing out the queue of waiting transactions.

Conversely, very bad things can happen when miners happen to be unlucky. The queue of transactions waiting to be confirmed will grow, using more and more memory inside every full node. Full nodes could (and probably will in a future release of Bitcoin Core) start to drop transactions from the queue, which will make transaction confirmation less reliable.

If the wallet re-broadcasts transactions if they are not confirmed after a few blocks (the Bitcoin Core wallet does), then bandwidth usage spikes as every wallet on the network rebroadcasts its unconfirmed transactions.

If the number of transactions waiting gets large enough, the end result will be an over-saturated network, busy doing nothing productive. I don’t think that is likely– it is more likely people just stop using Bitcoin because transaction confirmation becomes increasingly unreliable." - Gavin Andresen
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:23 pm

Complaints from users, Day 93 (27/10/2016):

I'm a regular user of Bitsquare. Because of the current extreme congestion combined with Bitsquare hard coding a 0.0002 BTC miners fee for multisig deposits, I can't use Bitsquare even if I wanted to.
"My last $1000 trade took 18 hours to confirm, which was just barely under the 24 hour maximum window before the trade expires and enters arbitration." - insette
Took me forever and a day yesterday to get BTC from one of those "centralized exchanges"
"to another." - huntingisland
My son sent btc to Microsoft using a priority fee and it hasn't
"confirmed" - locuester
I'm waiting since 13 hours for my transaction to be confirmed.
The fuck is going on?
"I haven't been delving into bitcoin issues much lately. I do however have a reoccurring payment I make to an online service and it has probably been 6 hours and not only has my transaction not cleared yet but it hasn't got 1 single confirmation." - ReddHerring
BTC "unconfirmed transaction"
"for almost 24 hours?!" - CaptnPilot
30h and
"pending" - lak3108
Help - unconfirmed transaction
"I have unconfirmed transaction for more than 18h, is there any way i can speed it up ? And why did it happen ? https://blockchain.info/tx/ac83b7ccd78c ... 70a2054aa8" - zbrnelic
need help with this transaction. what happened?
"hey, long time user here who hasnt moved any coins in awhile. Thing is, i know it used to take like an hour for 6 confirmations but now its been over 24hour without even one confirmation. here is the transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/bc86110205e4 ... 62aca855bb" - unixkid
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:02 pm

Complaints from users, Day 94 (28/10/2016):

Segwit: The Poison Pill for Bitcoin
"It's really critical to recognize the costs and benefits of segwit. Proponents say, "well it offers on-chain scaling, why are you against scaling!" That's all true, but at what cost? Considering benefits without considering costs is a recipe for non-optimal equilibrium. I was an early segwit supporter, and the fundamental idea is a good one. But the more I learned about its implementation, the more i realized how poorly executed it is. But this isn't an argument about lightning, whether flex transactions are better, or whether segwit should have been a hard-fork to maintain a decentralized development market. They're all important and relevant topics, but for another day.

Segwit is a Poison Pill to Destroy Future Scaling Capability

Segwit creates a TX throughput increase to an equivalent 1.7MB with existing 1MB blocks which sounds great. But we need to move 4MB of data to do it! We are getting 1.7MB of value for 4MB of cost. Simply raising the blocksize would be better than segwit, by core's OWN standards of decentralization.

But that's not an accident. This is the real genius of segwit (from core's perspective): it makes scaling MORE difficult. Because we only get 1.7MB of scale for every 4MB of data, any blocksize limit increase is 2.35x more costly relative to a flat, non-segwit increase. With direct scaling via larger blocks, you get a 1-to-1 relationship between the data managed and the TX throughput impact (i.e. 2MB blocks requires 2MB of data to move and yields 2MB tx throughput rates). With Segwit, you will get a small TX throughput increase (benefit), but at a massive data load (cost).

If we increased the blocksize to 2MB, then we would get the equivalent of 3.4MB transaction rates..... but we'd need to handle 8MB of data! Even in an implementation environment with market-set blocksize limits like Bitcoin Unlimited, scaling becomes more costly. This is the centralization pressure core wants to create - any scaling will be more costly than beneficial, caging in users and forcing them off-chain because bitcoin's wings have been permanently clipped.

TLDR: Direct scaling has a 1.0 marginal scaling impact. Segwit has a 0.42 marginal scaling impact. I think the miners realize this. In addition to scaling more efficiently, direct scaling also is projected to yield more fees per block, a better user experience at lower TX fees, and a higher price creating larger block reward." - jeanduluoz
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:04 pm

SegWit false start attack allows a minority of miners to steal bitcoins from SegWit transactions
"If 48% of the mining hashpower supports segwit, then a coalition of malicious miners with 47% of the hashpower can trigger segwit activation.

After this, they can allow segwit transactions to occur and then revert to pre-SegWit behavior.

Non-SegWit hashpower will then be a majority at 52%.

The malicious miners can then spend the anyone-can-spend outputs and take all the money sent in SegWit transactions.

In fact, a coalition of malicious miners can form after SegWit activation and do this, if sufficient numbers of users are still using pre-SegWit software.

SegWit therefore reduces the threshold needed for an attack on bitcoin from 50% to 45% while there are 5% of miners with pre-SegWit software.

SegWit also makes the consequences of such an attack much more serious: A 51% attack (or 46% attack) now results in the attacker being able to steal bitcoins. Without SegWit, the attacker can merely freeze bitcoins in place by refusing to process transactions.

SegWit seriously degrades the security of bitcoin. It's a mess. Really. Find a way to fix malleability that doesn't degrade bitcoin's security." - homerjthompson_
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:35 pm

Complaints from users, Day 95 (29/10/2016):

Rethinking RBF and realizing how bad it actually is.
"Perhaps there is no point in keeping RBF. It is silly to double spend a bitcoin, even if it is not confirmed yet. Considering that the astonishing issue that bitcoin solves is a way to prevent double spending transactions, now we have a 'feature' that allows a user to double spend a transaction. We have been able to double spend transactions for decades, ever copy a file and send it to two people? This RBF is not a feature, it introduces a flaw in the first ten minutes of neteork behavior until the confirmation actually takes place." - Happy5488Paint
RBF is the personal great love of Peter Todd. Since he appeared on the Bitcoin scene he tried to have it added, because it significantly reduces the utility value of Bitcoin.
"He tried for years but of course it was never merged in to the client code. But then something happened: Blockstream needed Bitcoin to be degraded to promote their 2nd layer stuff, and guess what, Peter Todd was added to BlockstreamCore and RBF was merged..." - coin-master
RBF was supposed to be the nasal spray for a congested network.
"Nevermind we didn't want the network to be sick in the first place." - LovelyDay
I can not speak for others but I really would like Bitcoin to be a usable payment system. This compels me to point out existing problems so they can be solved.
"A blocksize limit imposed by people like nullc who insist that Bitcoin isn't and should not be a payment system is an example of such a problem that needs to be solved." - jennywikstrom
If we want bitcoin to success, we need to point out its problems in order to fix it,
"rather than pretending everything is good." - xd1gital
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:46 pm

Complaints from users, Day 96 (31/10/2016):

Bitcoin company CTO here. Why I oppose Segwit.
"Someone asked me why I oppose Segwit recently, and here's what I told them:

Largely out of technical objections, and political ones also. I see Segwit as a crudely-designed kludge, and an unnecessary complication to the protocol. Open Transactions was working on a sidechain implementation years ago that didn't require Segwit, it only required deterministic ordering of UTXOs when creating new tx, which still doesn't have a BIP and it's a damn shame because that was a great idea.

SegWit introduces a large amount of complexity, technical debt that will make it harder for others to contribute, locking in the "core" devs. This is something that I see a lot in older coders who are afraid of becoming irrelevant and try to "lock in" their relevancy by becoming maintainers of a critical but obscure infrastructure, I saw that at national labs a lot in grad-school and during post-docs. Plus SegWit really is not a soft-fork, but a hard-fork, since you can't run an older node anymore and still even participate in validating transactions, all old nodes become obsolete. You won't have any choice over whether you want to accept "anyonecanspend" tx without signatures included unless you literally run a full node on the old repo tag, and even then your node won't actually be participating in the network anymore except as a relay, not a validator. It's a major technical change, introducing a large new attack surface, and I don't think it's prudent to force it through this way in a $10B economy. It reeks of centralized control, and I especially don't trust would-be economists and religious zealots like GMaxwell and Luke Jr. to have that control, nobody should, it's supposed to be peer-to-peer Satoshi consensus. I don't really agree that those people should have ever been the "core". Satoshi stopped talking to all of them once Gavin went to a little meeting with the CIA, remember? I don't trust any of them. "Trust no-one" used to be a motto for bitcoin, now it's "Trust Lightning Network brought to you by R3!".

I also think that if a sidechain implementation does come out, it should be from a team that doesn't have the conflicting interest of also being the maintainers of the "core", especially if that group is holding the blocksize down for the business interests of a large banking collaborative who pays their salary. To me, this represents undue control and influence of the banking community on bitcoin, and their interests are to make bitcoin into a settlement layer only, not a payment layer or a store of value for civilians. The bankers largely agree with the modern "helicopter money" theories of Bernanke, loosely based on Keynesian economic theory, as opposed to the Satoshi viewpoint of Austrian/Viennese economic theory. The bankers are aligned with the governments, they want people using fiat, they are literally opposed to any safe store of value as it negates their ability to "stimulate" people into spending by devaluing the currency, which is their excuse to keep printing money and essentially enslaving everyone else via that mechanism. The bankers and governments want people using fiat, and the "core" have even told people to use Visa instead of bitcoin!

Finally, scaling itself. The whole scaling argument was ridiculous at first, and now it's turned sinister. Moore's law predicts a doubling of memory capacity on a given size of chip every 18 months, and Neilsen's law predicts a doubling of the fastest speeds achievable in a communication network every 12 months. Using these laws, we can extropolate that bitcoin would be just fine with an immediate increase to 8MB max blocksize, and a 30% geometric growth curve forever, and have a decreasing storage capacity signature and network propogation delay over time, forever. Therefore, the whole debate is meaningless, it's completely political. The bankers bought out the core, and now they are blocking scaling so they can try to force everyone to use Lightning Network instead of bitcoin. The core is literally trying to take all the transactions away from the miners and give it to their banking buddies, while crippling bitcoin to only be able to do banking settlements. They are destroying Satoshi's vision. SegwitCoin is Bankcoin, not bitcoin." - ZeroFucksG1v3n
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Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:51 pm

SegWit-as-a-softfork is a hack. Flexible-Transactions-as-a-hard-fork is simpler, safer and more future-proof than SegWit-as-a-soft-fork - trivially solving malleability, while adding a "tag-based" binary data format (like JSON, XML or HTML) for easier, safer future upgrades with less technical debt
"TL;DR:

The Flexible Transaction upgrade proposal should be considered by anyone who cares about the protocol stability because:

Its risk of failures during or after upgrading is several magnitudes lower than SegWit;

It removes technical debt, allowing us to innovate better into the future.

https://zander.github.io/posts/Flexible_Transactions/

There is currently a lot of interest and discussion about upgrading Bitcoin to solve various problems (eg: fixing transaction malleability, providing modest on-chain scaling, reducing SigOps complexity. etc.).

One proposal is Blockstream/Core's SegWit-as-a-soft-fork (SWSF) - which most people - including myself - have expressed support for.

However, over the past few months, closer inspection of SegWit reveals several serious and avoidable flaws (possibly due to certain less-visible political / economic power struggles) - leading to the conclusion that that SegWit is inferior in several ways when compared with other, similar proposals - such as Flexible Transations.

Why is Flexible Transactions better than SegWit?

It is true that SegWit would introduce make Bitcoin better in many important ways.

But it also true that SegWit would introduce make Bitcoin worse in many other important ways - all of which are due to Core/Blockstream's mysterious (selfish?) insistence on doing SegWit-as-a-soft-fork.

Why is it better to hard-fork rather than soft-fork Bitcoin at this time?

There are 3 clear and easy-to-understand reasons why most people would agree that a hard fork is better than a soft fork for Bitcoin right now. This is because a hard fork is:

simpler and more powerful

safer

more future-proof

than a soft fork.

Further explanations on these three points are detailed below.

(1) Why is a hard fork simpler and more powerful than a soft fork?

By definition, a soft fork imposes additional restrictions in order to ensure backwards compatibility - because a soft fork cannot change any existing data structures.

Instead, a soft fork must use existing data structures as-is - while adding (optional) semantics to them - which only newer clients can understand and use, and older clients simply ignore.

This restriction (which applies only to soft forks, not to hard forks) severely limits the freedom of developers, making soft forks more complicated and less powerful than hard forks:

Some improvements must be implemented using overly complicated code - in order to "shoe-horn" or "force" them into existing data-structures.

Some improvements must be entirely abandoned - because there is not way to "shoe-horn" or "force" them into existing data-structures.

https://zander.github.io/posts/Flexible_Transactions/

SegWit wants to keep the data-structure of the transaction unchanged and it tries to fix the data structure of the transaction. This causes friction as you can't do both at the same time, so there will be a non-ideal situation and hacks are to be expected.

The problem, then, is that SegWit introduces more technical debt, a term software developers use to say the system-design isn't done and needs significant more work. And the term 'debt' is accurate as over time everyone that uses transactions will have to understand the defects to work with this properly. Which is quite similar to paying interest.

(2) Why is a hard fork safer than a soft fork?

Ironically, supporters of "soft forks" claim that their approach is "backwards-compatible" - but this claim is not really true in the real world, because:

If non-upgraded nodes are no longer able to validate transactions...

And If non-upgraded nodes don't even know that they're no longer able to validate transactions...

Then this is in many ways actually worse than simply requiring an explicit hard-fork upgrade (where at least everyone is required to explicitly upgrade - and nodes that do not upgrade "know" that they're no longer validating transactions).

It is good to explicitly incentivize and require all nodes to be in consensus regarding what software they should be running - by using a hard fork. This is similar to how Nakamoto consensus works (incentivize and require all nodes to be in consensus regarding the longest valid chain) - and it is also in line with Satoshi's suggestions for upgrading the network.

So, when SegWit supporters claim "a soft-fork is backwards-compatible", they are either (unconsciously) wrong or (consciously) lying.

With SegWit, non-upgraded nodes would no no longer be able to validate transactions - and wouldn't even know that they're no longer able to validate transactions - which is obviously more dangerous than simply requiring all nodes to explicitly upgrade.

https://zander.github.io/posts/Flexible_Transactions/

Using a Soft fork means old clients will stop being able to validate transactions, or even parse them fully. But these old clients are themselves convinced they are doing full validation.

(3) Why is Flexible Transactions more future-proof than SegWit?

https://zander.github.io/posts/Flexible_Transactions/

Using a tagged format for a transaction is a one time hard fork to upgrade the protocol and allow many more changes to be made with much lower impact on the system in the future.

Where SegWit tries to adjust a static memory-format by re-purposing existing fields, Flexible transactions presents a coherent simple design that removes lots of conflicting concepts.

Most importantly, years after Flexible transactions has been introduced we can continue to benefit from the tagged system to extend and fix issues we find then we haven't thought of today. In the same, consistent, concepts.

The basic idea is to change the transaction to be much more like modern systems like JSON, HTML and XML. Its a 'tag' based format and has various advantages over the closed binary-blob format.

For instance if you add a new field, much like tags in HTML, your old browser will just ignore that field making it backwards compatible and friendly to future upgrades.

Conclusions: Flexible Transactions is simpler, safer, more powerful and more future-proof (and even provides more scaling) than SegWit

SegWit has some good ideas and some needed fixes. Stealing all the good ideas and improving on them can be done, but require a hard fork.

Flexible Transactions lowers the amount of changes required in the entire ecosystem.

After SegWit has been in the design stage for a year and still we find show-stopping issues, delaying the release, dropping the requirement of staying backwards-compatible should be on the table.

The introduction of the Flexible Transaction upgrade has big benefits because the transaction design becomes extensible. A hardfork is done once to allow us to do soft upgrades in the future.

[Flexible transactions] introduces a tagged data structure. Conceptually like JSON and XML in that it is flexible, but the proposal is a compact and fast binary format.

Using the Flexible Transaction data format allows many future innovations to be done cleanly in a consistent and, at a later stage, a more backwards compatible manner than SegWit is able to do, even if given much more time.

On size, SegWit proposes to gain 60% space. Which is by removing the signatures minus the overhead introduced. Flexible transactions showed 75% gain." - ydtm
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:01 pm

Transaction taking a long time to confirm
"So today i sold some things in bitcoin and was paid into a new wallet for some reason the transaction hasnt confirmed for 4 hours now, I've never had it take this long before, how much longer should I excpect to be waiting? one of the few transaction ids: 4e562204c55a5cd8ebef5564c338ef1dbdabaf9d72a1eb5fb90e83907c867d91" - jossfun
Estimated Confirmation Time: Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)
"Hi, I created transaction and it was not confirmed. The priority was always high to my previous transaction, this transaction estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority) " The fees was set automatic by Electrum and I think it is not too low to cause such issue. How much time will take to be confirmed or will be not confirmed at all? Link to transaction info https://blockchain.info/tx/421a34b424e6 ... 0220981da9" - poisonerbg
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:42 am

/r/bitcoin locks comments on
"There Will Be No Bitcoin Split" article. https://medium.com/@johnblocke/there-wi ... 4f1d60a657" - BeijingBitcoins
The entire Bitcoin ecosystem should be embarrassed by the behavior of the mods
"at /r/Bitcoin" - MemoryDealers
Agree 100%. It's really a crying shame that the small blockers aren't more outraged with the /r/bitcoin mods. The real Bitcoin ethos doesn't fear
"free speech!" - jcnike
I agree that it's ridiculous behavior, but behavior of others rarely embarrass me.
"They just make us look better." - Political_douche
It's embarrassing and weak
"and it's a disgrace who tolerate this." - Egon_1
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:35 pm

Complaints from users, Day 97 (01/11/2016):

Aaaand... it's gone. Another article of mine deleted from /r/Bitcoin, this time after reaching
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Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:42 pm

Complaints from users, Day 98 (02/11/2016):

Less than 5 minutes after I posted something about leaving the /r/bitcoin moderation log public, my post was removed
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:24 pm

Complaints from users, Day 99 (03/11/2016):

I'm nervouw because my btc transaction to bitstamp is not coming through...
"I deposited a reasonable amount of btc to Bitstamp a while ago and still not one single confirmation. I used Trezor to do it and on the Bitstamp app it says the right amount is on its way to my account but still 0 confirmations..." - MrD3flor
My bitcoins haven't transferred yet, it's been 24 hours. Is this normal?
"I used to use bitcoins a lot back in jan-April of 2016. I used an app called Bither and I would transfer the coins from bither over to my electrum wallet. For some reason, the coins from my bither wallet won't transfer out ... it keeps saying ".*** to be confirmed". Is this something wrong with electrum or bither? Or is it just something weird going on with bitcoins right now?" - andjellow
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Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:40 pm

Complaints from users, Day 100 (04/11/2016):

Silent but deadly. Over 20k unconfirmed transactions.
"https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

Plus, check the history here https://www.bitcoinqueue.com/all.html.

Notice the giant buildups occurring on a regular frequency and with increasing size?

That's what happens when demand for transactions is cleared out by a random walk like block confirmations with a 1MB cap.

Calling it 'spam' and assuming a conspiracy is dangerous. There's a clear trend emerging with increasing backlogs that is consistent with multi-year transaction volume growth.

I hope core pulls their head out of their ass soon, because SegWit is likely too little too late. If we keep having these degraded service periods, people are going to go to Monero/Zcash/Ethereum/whatever." - Guardia222
I've been out of the loop for about 6 months, I just sent a transaction this morning about 7 hours ago
"and it still doesn't even have 1 confirmation yet. Annoying... " - xpdx
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:21 pm

Complaints from users, Day 101 (05/11/2016):

I'm pro blocking segwit.
"We should increase block size with HF, fix malleability other ways. Focus on-chain, increase privacy, grow Bitcoin." - Olivier Janssens
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Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:38 pm

Complaints from users, Day 102 (07/11/2016):

Several Mycelium Users Report Unusually High
"Bitcoin Transaction Fees" - Rassah
This is not Mycelium, this is Bitcoin Core.
"Mycelium uses Core estimations for what fee would be required to get into the next block or the next few blocks." - Rassah
That seems undoubtedly true;
"I've been checking estimatefee 1 regularly today and getting 1 million satoshis /kB while estimatefee 2 is giving me 62 thousand satoshis/kB." - waxwing
https://blockchain.info/block-index/1161612
"First transaction I looked at was a 54 dollar transaction with over 4 dollars of fees. Looking at a few other transactions, the lowest I've seen is around 1.50." - px403
$40 to send 1 BTC
"high priority." - blessedbt
Bitcoins still unconfirmed after almost a week.
"Are these coins lost forever? Is there anything I can do to speed this up, reclaim my coins? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks." - Groggywog
Help - it's been awhile... Transaction time
"It's been 12 hours and nothing has been confirmed. Is it possible to cancel somehow using Armory? How long might it take? Thanks" - x6Azide
0 confirmations
"I transferred some btc from electrum wallet to an exchange but still showing 0 confirmations after several hours (fee paid)." - BTCbaker
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Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:18 pm

Complaints from users, Day 103 (08/11/2016):

There aren't big blockers...There are promoters of the original Nakamoto's consensus, that it is a purely market driven consensus.
"Big or small blocks should be freely determined time by time by the miners, every 10 minutes. And at the opposite side there are statist minded people, who think that there are better people than them (authorities) that they will choose for them and will protect them from the dangerous free will." - HostFat
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Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:26 pm

Complaints from users, Day 104 (09/11/2016):

PSA: Even CEOs of major Bitcoin companies are unaware of the suppression of discussion
"by Theymos and supported by Core supporters. bitcoin-discussion/the-only-forums-that ... 12374.html" - MemoryDealers
BitFury CEO should replace his CIO Alex Petrov.
"Alex is Core/Blockstream agent Nr 2 right after Samsung." - Egon_1
I had what I would call a civil disagreement and discussion over twitter with him about two months ago. Shortly after I had the conversation, Alex Petrov from Bitfury (@sysmannet) blocked me (@todu77) on twitter.
"Here's the conversation that I claim was civil and respectful: https://mobile.twitter.com/OneMorePeter ... 8014352384" - todu
People who resort to ad hominem attacks rather than addressing the issues
"are pathetic." - MemoryDealers
Everyone should send their personal examples of censorship
"to Valery directly." - shmazzled
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:50 pm

Complaints from users, Day 105 (10/11/2016):

Bitcoin Scaling Solution Segwit a “Bait and Switch”
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:58 pm

Change bitcoin so that old addresses are useless, Satoshi's coins gone, etc. -Theymos
"you might have to send all of your BTC to brand new addresses or else you'll lose the BTC" - he says" - zcc0nonA
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Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:35 pm

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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:44 pm

Blockstream hid the fact they had applied for the patent.
"That's misleading (deceptive?)." - Sergio Demian Lerner
Conflict of interest much?
"Gman working for Blockstream while supressing Bitcoin for his companys gain?!?!?!?! Is it just me? Wtf is going on." - ToddIsRetarded
Blockstream is no better
"than any bank" - BTC_number_1_fan
because they are bankers
"trying to kill bitcoin." - fat_tony555
Sergio Demian Lerner on Twitter: All the patents under my sole control I have abandoned, both software and hardware. Take anything I said or wrote,
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Re: Complaints from Bitcoin Users

Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:17 pm

Complaints from users, Day 107 (14/11/2016):

A (brief and incomplete) history of
"censorship in /r/Bitcoin https://medium.com/@johnblocke/a-brief- ... .imb2ctr10" - John Blocke
This is nothing less than the single greatest document
"of /r/btc's raison d'etre that has ever been published." - Noosterdam
Wow, a long needed summary post I feel,
"and an important post that people need to see," - bitcoinalien
Dude, excellent work and write up!!!
"The entire Bitcoin community has to condemn this. Otherwise, they support the censorship tacitly and by that harming/betraying Bitcoin." - Egon_1
Every CEO, every miner in the bitcoin space
"should read this article." - nicebtc
I will not be using r/Bitcoin or bitcointalk.org again,
"people should be steered away from these corrupt platforms and made aware of the scumbags like Theymos" - ethMonkey
wow, fantastic work! i've wondered whether some smart, dedicated individual could/would document just a fraction of the censored posts and bans that have taken place over the last year and a half or so. that's a brutal and damning list that should be archived for posterity. such a shameful, disgusting situation created by small blockheads and core dev.
"those guys deserve to be ostracized from Bitcoin." - shmazzled
Regarding the early history - when Theymos defined XT as an "alt-coin", because it provided much bigger blocks: By that definition, many changes to Bitcoin could be considered an "altcoin":
" XT, Classic, BitPay's Adaptive blocksize, etc. - all making a change to the blocksize, SegWit - making a massive change in the data structures, requiring rewriting nearly all wallet and exchange software, Lightning - making a drastic change to Bitcoin's network topology. This shows that their definition of an "alt-coin" is total bullshit: They classify a minimal change (increasing the blocksize), as an "alt-coin". They classify a gigantic change (rewriting all the software, drastically changing the network topology) as "Bitcoin". They are liars who are trying to force their language and ideology on the rest of the community, to support the plans of one company: AXA Blockstream." - ydtm
Exactly! How the hell is raising the limit an "altcoin" when SW plans on totally changing the structure of payments?
"The best solutions in computer science are the simplest. This is so ass backwards. Remember when bitcoin was ruled by public interest?" - nickisaboss
Thought I'd comment to say all of your articles rock!
"Thank you!" - 00010ec
These tweets from Adam deserve to be archived.
"The dipshit status is earned, and that'd be sad to see these trophies disappear." - BitcoinGuerrilla
fuck Theymos and fuck GMaxwell.
"get them out of bitcoin. " - fat_tony555
Great work again - sad to read, but well composed.
"Anyone who is aware of and passively accepts this kind censorship is complicit in the ongoing perpetration of this odious practice and is a weak and pathetic human being who it is impossible for me to have any respect towards and definitely no trust in. Whether censorship harms or helps your POV it should be spoken out about with equal strength. It is corrosive, divisive and dishonest. There will be two potential outcomes - rebellion or abandonment - neither will be good for bitcoin's reputation - but some kind of rebellion - eg blocking segwit activation,may actually save it in the long run. " - papabitcoin
The biggest problem I have with this is that Reddit is allowing this shady behaviour.
"All the things that are happening in /r/Bitcoin are explicitly forbidden." - Twaah
Seems to be a very good
"and accurate write-up!" - colsatre
Great read,
"thank you!!!" - Limzero
Props for putting in so much effort.
"Very interesting reading. " - Coins103
Well said sir
"well said!!!" - ToddIsRetarded
We can't improve Bitcoin
"if we can't discuss how to do it because posts get censored." - r2d2_21
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