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A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:35 am

More than a month ago, I publicly posted the following question on Reddit for Greg Maxwell.
There is no doubt he saw it, but to date has refused to reply. Greg, I would still appreciate hearing your reply.
Greg, since you have spent plenty of time on /r/BTC today debating the censorship issue, I'd like to hear your thoughts on Theymos explicitly censoring my own post on block sizes on /r/Bitcoin. Was this acceptable behavior? Why, or why not? Here is proof of Theymos intentionally deleting a link to my post: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN3NtxGU8AAllZb.png:large
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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:15 am

Update: Greg has since made all sorts of references to this thread, and made all sorts of comments about it, but has never actually answered the questions about Theymos' policies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4 ... on/d6yf0u5
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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:20 am

Update: Greg has since made all sorts of references to this thread, and made all sorts of comments about it, but has never actually answered the questions about Theymos' policies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4 ... on/d6yf0u5
Has theymos himself made any comments on this topic, has he tried to explain his actions at all?
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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:57 pm

Roger you stopped replying to anything related to the censorship you do in r/btc subreddit. Then you claimed several times how you had not seen anything and how you know nothing.

So you still don't know what happens in your subreddit? Still don't know how your mouse clicked the ban button? You claim zero knowledge of anything related to this.

For others,
Roger censors people who voice opposite opinions in his "non-censored" subreddit r/Btc at Reddit. He claims to have no knowledge of the policies, even though he's the admin. Many have asked him about this. He usually answers once or twice, but when he should actually say something that matters, he stops replying. Everything can be proven, of course. And have been proven. When the proofs are shown, Roger stops replying. Later he again claims no knowledge of anything and everything is repeated.

Roger, is this the world you want to see? Games, bullshit in fancy packages, outright lies, hidden manipulation, etc?

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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:11 pm

Roger you stopped replying to anything related to the censorship you do in r/btc subreddit. Then you claimed several times how you had not seen anything and how you know nothing.
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Roger, is this the world you want to see? Games, bullshit in fancy packages, outright lies, hidden manipulation, etc?
you are free to post here.

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i dont think that Maxwell is in favour of theymos ridiculous censoring but he does not want to put more fuel in the fire.
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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:23 pm

Roger you stopped replying to anything related to the censorship you do in r/btc subreddit. Then you claimed several times how you had not seen anything and how you know nothing.

So you still don't know what happens in your subreddit? Still don't know how your mouse clicked the ban button? You claim zero knowledge of anything related to this.

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Roger censors people who voice opposite opinions in his "non-censored" subreddit r/Btc at Reddit. He claims to have no knowledge of the policies, even though he's the admin. Many have asked him about this. He usually answers once or twice, but when he should actually say something that matters, he stops replying. Everything can be proven, of course. And have been proven. When the proofs are shown, Roger stops replying. Later he again claims no knowledge of anything and everything is repeated.

Roger, is this the world you want to see? Games, bullshit in fancy packages, outright lies, hidden manipulation, etc?
I made the entire moderation log for /r/BTC public here.
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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:23 pm

Roger you stopped replying to anything related to the censorship you do in r/btc subreddit. Then you claimed several times how you had not seen anything and how you know nothing.

So you still don't know what happens in your subreddit? Still don't know how your mouse clicked the ban button? You claim zero knowledge of anything related to this.

For others,
Roger censors people who voice opposite opinions in his "non-censored" subreddit r/Btc at Reddit. He claims to have no knowledge of the policies, even though he's the admin. Many have asked him about this. He usually answers once or twice, but when he should actually say something that matters, he stops replying. Everything can be proven, of course. And have been proven. When the proofs are shown, Roger stops replying. Later he again claims no knowledge of anything and everything is repeated.

Roger, is this the world you want to see? Games, bullshit in fancy packages, outright lies, hidden manipulation, etc?
I made the entire moderation log for /r/BTC public here.
Feel free to point out any examples of me censoring anyone on /r/BTC. (You won't find any)
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Why can't I find the occasion where you banned me from the r/btc subreddit, permanently? Censorship in action?

Can you please provide me the log statement about me getting banned? I couldn't find anything about this from the "log" you provided. As you know, I am permanently banned from r/btc, so shouldn't there be something about this in the "moderation log"?

There are other stuff too, obviously, but let's focus on this one (me getting banned from your subreddit), because this alone is enough.

So, why am I banned from r/btc? I asked many times, even via PM. You never answered.


Are you aware of that some people get rate-limited (by Reddit, but only as anti-spam system) because they have different opinions than the most in there? This rate limiting is effectively crippling users in unfair positions, as you know and have been told several times. The content these rate-limited people post are not spam, but are considered spam by the automatic bot. Reddit suggests subreddit mods to use the whitelist feature when this happens. You and your moderator team have chosen to allow this censorship happen. Peoples abilities to use the subreddit are restricted based on their opinions.

But you know all this already, because you've been told all this several times. And you've acknowledged you understand it, but you've done nothing to fix it. Instead, you've done plenty of things to make it worse.

So, I explained to you (r/btc, mods and you) several times these things, which after I got banned. I got first banned by one of your moderators (Bitcoinxio) because he didn't understand what I told him. It might have been a genuine misunderstanding by him, or maybe it was intended. It certainly looks like intended, because after I pm'd him (actually mod chat, so should be in the logs too??), he quieted me after I tried to explain him how mods picking who gets to talk is censorship. This is when they said that only "prominent bitcoin figures" get the right to talk via whitelisting. But who's "prominent bitcoin figure" and why should that matter when we're discussing the ability to post / censorship?

Then you expanded the ban to permanent after I had a chat with you. You replied to me and removed my ability to answer back.

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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:45 pm

Why can't I find the occasion where you banned me from the r/btc subreddit, permanently?
You can't find it because it never happened.
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Re: A question for /u/Nullc (Greg Maxwell) on censorship

Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:15 pm

Greg Maxwell is bad news, stay away from him.
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