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Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Mon May 15, 2017 3:11 am

Hi,
I am looking to see if anyone is interested in gaining together with me. I'm a professional trader with long experience (since 2011), trading for living.

I will manage and multiply a portfolio for you. It is very safe, the risk:reward is always skewed in our favor. The markets I trade are commodities and fx.

I can only accept 2 or 3 investors. I am managing manually and discreetly.

The reality in investing and trading is, no matter what anyone told you, it is a game of probabilities. The market, at some moment, could behave in an unexpected way. You can be certain, but never 100% certain.

For that reason, we need to protect our downside. That is a thing we have full control over. It is something you have to decide for yourself. This gives enough room to breathe in case a bad streak would accur (which is highly unprobable, and will probably never happen. but better safe than sorry). I would recommend 20% of account equity.

What profits can you expect?
Very big ones. From ~10% to ~200%. But I don't like to speculate on that or feed my ego. We don't force a pre-set profit objective. Why not? Because that would mean we would force ourselves to meet them, resulting in taking trades when there are none, taking non-ideal trades, increasing our risk and decreasing our reward. We would rather wait for the ideal conditions than being greedy and unpatient. This way our growth potential is strengthened.

I will share all executions made with your transparently. We will share the profits 50%, on a high watermark basis (meaning: you only have to share on new profits, which reach new alltime high for your account). If you invest more than 3 btc, you will keep 70% of the profits earned. Payout is accepted anytime you want ofcourse, but I would suggest we do it weekly or monthly.

If you plan to invest more or want to invest all of your bitcoin holdings, I will personally create a broker account for you which you will have full control over. Only details I need is your email address and btc address you want to payout yourself. That way you have complete peace of mind should you have the slightest doubt about me. However you would have to manually send me the small 30% share of the profits regularly.


If you want to start or have any question, contact me. I will usually reply very fast.

contact: mofund@protonmail.ch

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Mon May 15, 2017 4:44 am

the risk:reward is always skewed in our favor.
How can the risk:reward be always skewed in your favor if the market could behave in an uncertain way like you said?
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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Mon May 15, 2017 5:27 am

the risk:reward is always skewed in our favor.
How can the risk:reward be always skewed in your favor if the market could behave in an uncertain way like you said?
It is skewed in our favor, because of the way traded, method used, all factors together. I speak from experience. And because I am very selective with the trades.

With Risk:reward skewed in our favor I also mean the principle, trades taken often have atleast 1:3 rr, often 1:5 or even 1:15.
That means, after winning a trade of 1:5 rr, we could lose 5 trades in a row and we would still be break even.

There is always a remaining risk of uncertainty in everything, not only trading. If someone tells you otherwise, he lies or is a beginner.
If the market behaves unexpectedly, we reduce risk until we are in the zone again. It is usual practice. Over time, the more trades taken, the more the randomness is out of the way, and the edge (positive expectancy) shows. Resulting in a increasing equity curve.
As an example, after doubling or tripling the initial investment, if you don't want to compound and want to play it very safe, you could just take the initial investment out. Or another amount. Or everything.

So in short: It will show over time, but we still want to be secured for unlikely extreme conditions, should they ever appear.
Or just frankly: I think I know what I'm doing, and you are in good hands ;) If you want more details or past trades you can contact me. I only let upto 3 individual people invest with me though, else it's too much hassle

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Mon May 15, 2017 7:37 am

And how does this work, do you ask users to just send bitcoins to your trading account and trust that you will do the right thing by them?
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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Mon May 15, 2017 2:41 pm

The easiest and fastest way would be like that, just sending me the bitcoin.
You can trust me. I will be fully transparent with you. Should you decide you don't want to invest anymore or need it and/or the profits you can always just send me a message. I am there every day, so you should receive it very fast, usually within 2 hours or less.

If there is nobody that trusts me like that, or you want to invest a more significant amount and you need a peace of mind about it, I have a solution that makes it impossible for me to issue payouts. You can have full control over your account, and can give me access that is limited to trading only. From time to time you would need to manually login and send me a small share of profits. You don't need to worry about that, you will have plenty motivation.

If you want to invest more than 60 btc, I would advise against investing that amount (atleast for the start). I can tell you the detailed reasons in mail if you are interested. But in short, one main reason is, maximum leverage potential is reached at that amount.

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Tue May 16, 2017 12:57 am

Serious investors only: mofund@protonmail.ch


Tell me the amount you want to invest, and the maximum risk you want to tolerate (for example: 20%).



In 2 days I will come back and post who I choose as the first investor.



More serious investors are preferred.
(I dont think anything below 3 btc is serious, but if nobody is found, I will start at 1 btc).


I will do it 1 week for free for the first investor. You can keep all of the profits generated.
The 2nd week aswell, if the week was slow and no big gains were achieved.
And if I like you, maybe even the whole first month all profits for you. I will let you decide yourself.


Date of decision: 18th May 2017


Wishing you all a successful week.

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Tue May 16, 2017 10:48 pm

results of friend last 7 days
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only serious investors, 3 btc+ investments preferred.

I will choose first partner in 2 days

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Tue May 16, 2017 11:25 pm

Here's an idea; how about you sign the following message with an address containing more than 3 BTC to prove that you actually have at least 3 BTC in the first place:
I'm littlehelper from the Bitcoin.com Forum and I'm signing this message in May, 2017 to prove I have at least 3 bitcoins in my possession at this current point in time. Verification code: P6n!8sdzW4hk
Surely if you invest large amounts of Bitcoin you can sign the above with an address containing such a small amount, yes?

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Wed May 17, 2017 5:42 am

Thanks for your reply admin.

even if I own 0 bitcoins, I can still help.
I don't participate in d*ck measurement contests.

So you can assume I own nothing. I hope this is not a problem for your site.

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Wed May 17, 2017 6:01 am

Thanks for your reply admin.

even if I own 0 bitcoins, I can still help.
I don't participate in d*ck measurement contests.

So you can assume I own nothing. I hope this is not a problem for your site.
You may still be able to help but you have to realize that you are not asking for small investments here.

Did you miss my question on what you expect users to do about sending bitcoins to you, I imagine that you would be asking them to send to an exchange site address or an address that you have full control over.
You have no trust here and are not know to the community so why should someone trust you with a large amount of bitcoins, ask yourself something; would you send someone that you don’t know and can’t track down 3btc?

It sounds like you basically just want to risk other people’s bitcoins trading and take a cut of the profits therefor no losses could come to yourself, the perfect deal for you :twisted:
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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Wed May 17, 2017 4:17 pm

That's right.

Often the difference between a successful person and a failure is not one has better abilities or ideas,
but the courage that one has to bet on one's ideas, to take a calculated risk - and to act.

For a large amount you don't need to send anything to me, you have your own account setup. I don't get anything until you decide you are satisfied.

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Wed May 17, 2017 7:01 pm

I am looking to see if anyone is interested in gaining together with me. I'm a professional trader with long experience (since 2011), trading for living.
Professional trader with experience from 2011. But you don't even have 3 BTC. huh.

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Re: Rare opportunity to partner with professional trader, Investing your bitcoin in a safe way

Wed May 17, 2017 8:34 pm

Is this like 1broker.com? Where you can copy a trader's moves. Like an "etoro.com." I signed up but I haven't used it. I'm not sure how legitimate it is or not. One thing that bothers me is I can't figure out which jurisdiction they are located in.

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