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Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:38 pm
by djc

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:43 pm
by iFixBTCmemoryIssues
Just stay away from this technology!

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:54 pm
by LiteCoinGuy
Lightning will bring what bitcoin desperately needs, cant wait to see it in action! 8-)

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:13 pm
by Maldesto
I'm both excited and concerned :?

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:42 pm
by iFixBTCmemoryIssues
Lightning will bring what bitcoin desperately needs, cant wait to see it in action! 8-)
This is not true, Bitcoin requires on-chain scaling.

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:38 pm
by LiteCoinGuy
Bitcoin Lightning Payments Pass 'Milestone' With Blockstream Test

The engineers also noted that the transaction speed was about a few tenths of a millisecond, a time they compared to those executed on the bitcoin blockchain and its 10-minute block confirmation times. The results, they inferred, thereby show the increased user experience Lightning could bring to the network at scale.

http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-amp ... ansaction/



@iFixBTCmemoryIssues

both my friend ;)

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:43 am
by djc
Well, as Rusty Russell said himself, he doesn't forsee Lightning being used practically for any payments of more than 0.042BTC presently. So it is still very very much in just the bootstrapping stage (even if it delivers on the routing problem and technical issues).

This indicates to me that we should be careful about heralding LN as THE scaling solution for Bitcoin at the expense of others.

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:03 pm
by iFixBTCmemoryIssues
Well, as Rusty Russell said himself, he doesn't forsee Lightning being used practically for any payments of more than 0.042BTC presently. So it is still very very much in just the bootstrapping stage (even if it delivers on the routing problem and technical issues).

This indicates to me that we should be careful about heralding LN as THE scaling solution for Bitcoin at the expense of others.
It's risky, requires additional resources (2 daemons), untested, unproven, complicated for the average user and business, requires channels to be online. Most importantly to me, it is being pushed out on a billion dollar network and it's coming from a shady group of individuals.

In the past week alone there has been embezzlement allegations of Blockstream, CEO resigns, new CEO blatantly lying about his role of Hashcash in Bitcoin. Users are furious.

I read peoples conversations every day, serious issues that cannot be pushed aside by PR. We will find this as a major waste of effort that has cost everyone time and money.

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:24 am
by grabberfish
Lightning will bring what bitcoin desperately needs, cant wait to see it in action! 8-)
Bitcoin Unlimited would be a perfect fix for the problems we currently observe. The only blocker is that one subset of people are scared shitless that this would remove their total stranglehold on the technology today.

Whether or not LN is a Good Thing in the long run is a moot point right now, because bitcoin's problems are immediate and having a visible impact on adoption today.

Re: Lightning Network. Pros and Cons

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:23 pm
by LiteCoinGuy
Blockstream Completes Its First Lightning Transaction on Bitcoin Testnet

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bl ... 1475850017