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Blockstream having patents in Segwit makes all the weird pieces of the last three years fall perfectly into place

Tue May 02, 2017 4:08 am

Based on Blockstream’s behavior in the Bitcoin community, I have become absolutely certain that Segwit contains patents that Blockstream and/or their owners have planned to use offensively. I base this not on having read the actual patents, for they can be kept secret for quite some time; I base this on observing Blockstream’s behavior, and having seen the exact same behavior many times before in the past 20 years from entities that all went bankrupt.

Read the full article: https://falkvinge.net/2017/05/01/blocks ... all-place/

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Re: Blockstream having patents in Segwit makes all the weird pieces of the last three years fall perfectly into place

Tue May 02, 2017 11:51 am

Ahhh BitcoinXio. Now you spread this misinformations too :lol:

"Blockstream does not have any patents, patent applications, provisional patent applications, or anything similar, related to segwit. As is the case for other major protocol features, the Bitcoin developers worked carefully to not create patent complications. Segwit was a large-scale collaboration across the community, which included people who work for Blockstream among its many contributors.

Moreover, because the public disclosure of segwit was more than a year ago, we could not apply for patents now.

In the prior thread where this absurdity was alleged on Reddit I debunked it forcefully. Considering that Rick directly repeated the tortured misinterpretation of our patent pledge from that thread (a pledge which took an approach that was lauded by multiple online groups), I find it hard to believe that he missed these corrections, doubly so in that he provides an incomplete response to them as though he were anticipating a reply, when really he’d already seen the rebuttal and should have known that there was nothing to these claims.

As an executive of Blockstream and one of the contributors to segwit, my straightforward public responses 1) that we do not, have not, will not, and can not apply for patents on segwit, 2) that if had we done so we would have been ethically obligated to disclose it, and 3) that even if we had done so our pledge would have made it available to everyone not engaging in patent aggression (just as the plain language of our pledge states): If others depended upon these responses, it would create a reliance which would preclude enforcement by Blockstream or our successors in interest even if the statements were somehow all untrue–or so the lawyers tell me.

In short, Rick Falkvinge’s allegations are entirely without merit and are supported by nothing more than pure speculation which had already been debunked.."

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How much money do you recieve as a mod by the way ;) ?

Do you know what is funny too? The Falkving Guy put all of his money in Bitcoin some years ago (same as Roger).
90% of the devs back then are still here today and they made Bitcoin so successfull in the first place!
Sometimes i can´t believe that the greed of some people is betraying everything what bitcoin stands for. Falkving even said, that we only need a couple of nodes (Roger is saying the same, god know why). THIS IS LUNATIC! Like someone got brainwashed by the pure greed.

Anyway, that way my take on that ;-)

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Re: Blockstream having patents in Segwit makes all the weird pieces of the last three years fall perfectly into place

Tue May 02, 2017 12:20 pm

As an executive of Blockstream and one of the contributors to segwit
That clears a lot up. I was wondering why you had such a twisted view of the ecosystem. Now that I see you are an employee of Blockstream, everything falls into place. Your posts are straight out of the BS PR mill: FUD, FUD and more FUD. I'd ask you to ease up on the bullshit, but it's in your job description.

This is just like when btdrak was mod in r/btc.

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Re: Blockstream having patents in Segwit makes all the weird pieces of the last three years fall perfectly into place

Tue May 02, 2017 2:13 pm

As an executive of Blockstream and one of the contributors to segwit
That clears a lot up. I was wondering why you had such a twisted view of the ecosystem. Now that I see you are an employee of Blockstream, everything falls into place. Your posts are straight out of the BS PR mill: FUD, FUD and more FUD. I'd ask you to ease up on the bullshit, but it's in your job description.

This is just like when btdrak was mod in r/btc.
Wow i didn't know that, an executive of blockstream and segwit contributer, you learn something new everyday but it does help explain your very hard view point on the matter.
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Re: Blockstream having patents in Segwit makes all the weird pieces of the last three years fall perfectly into place

Tue May 02, 2017 3:18 pm

As an executive of Blockstream and one of the contributors to segwit
That clears a lot up. I was wondering why you had such a twisted view of the ecosystem. Now that I see you are an employee of Blockstream, everything falls into place. Your posts are straight out of the BS PR mill: FUD, FUD and more FUD. I'd ask you to ease up on the bullshit, but it's in your job description.

This is just like when btdrak was mod in r/btc.
I didn't notice at first either, but someone pointed out to me that Litecoinguy was quoting Greg Maxwell (which he is, the link is toward the bottom). So it doesn't appear Litecoinguy works for Blockstream, he was just copying and pasting word for word what Maxwell said.

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Re: Blockstream having patents in Segwit makes all the weird pieces of the last three years fall perfectly into place

Tue May 02, 2017 3:37 pm

As an executive of Blockstream and one of the contributors to segwit
That clears a lot up. I was wondering why you had such a twisted view of the ecosystem. Now that I see you are an employee of Blockstream, everything falls into place. Your posts are straight out of the BS PR mill: FUD, FUD and more FUD. I'd ask you to ease up on the bullshit, but it's in your job description.

This is just like when btdrak was mod in r/btc.
I didn't notice at first either, but someone pointed out to me that Litecoinguy was quoting Greg Maxwell (which he is, the link is toward the bottom). So it doesn't appear Litecoinguy works for Blockstream, he was just copying and pasting word for word what Maxwell said.
Quite so. It was very poor formatting and communications from LCG. However, it does not change the narrative being pushed, it simply leaves open the reasoning for such a change in modes of participation. Not something I will lose sleep over.

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