Is https://www.bitminer.eu a scam?

[rogerver]

Is https://www.bitminer.eu a scam?

What do people think, and why?

I'm more than a little bit suspicious.

A related question:

If a likely scammer pays Bitcoin.com in advance to advertise via our online form: https://www.bitcoin.com/advertise

After receiving their payment, and their press release for what looks likely to be a scam, what should be done with the payment?

A. Should it be sent back to the attempted scammer?
B. Should it be donated to some charity?
C. Something else?

[kingscrown]

d) it could also go live with HUGE BANNER saying "propably scam"
e) it could get divided between forum staff members

[BitcoinXio]

I admittedly don't know a whole lot about cloud mining but I was able to find this post which has some very good tips and info which I would recommend reading over (I'll probably transpose this to another separate post since it seems really helpful):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic ... msg9568209

As to your secondary question, I think it really depends on each situation.

Let's say the scenario is the scammer pays up front, you run the ad, and find out mid-ad that it's a scam, and you pull the ad. I say the scammer forfeits the money and you get to keep it since you ran the ad for x-period of time.

Another scenario would be if they pay up front, and you find out it's a [presumed] scam before you ever run the ad. I would say you need to try to return the funds to the best of your ability.

[arnoudk]

Yes I think it is. See my posts here
post14967.html

As for what to do with funds. What about sending them to bitcoin bounty hunter for conviction of the fraudster? Sounds kinda nice to have them pay for their own bounty. Guess your tos will need to be very carefully worded though

[rogerver]

For now, since there wasn't any hard proof, I chose to refund him the money, and sent him the following email:

Hi Roger V,

Your refund has been sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/a5f5072a5fbf ... cfda821589
Mate may not have mentioned it, but the reason we decided not to run your PR is because we are very concerned that your site is designed to steal money from people and we don’t want to help promote this kind of activity.
If I am wrong, I’m very sorry for the false assumption.
If I am right, I would like to encourage you to use your skills honestly.
You obviously have enough talent to earn good money helping people do real work and designing real websites used for real commerce.
Either way, feel free to join our discussion about your company at: scam-accusations/is-https-www-bitminer- ... itminer.eu

With the best intentions,

Roger Ver

I'm also a bit annoyed that this guy is going by the name Roger V when I suspect that isn't his real name.
What kind of CEO only uses the first initial of their last name?

[elishamasih]

Hi All,

No. BitMiner is not a Scam however they pays as per the IPV (Instant Payment Value) which increases or decreases as per your Upgrade or Referrals or Payout from the site. Please find the below payment link which is of 0.007 BTC.
LINK:
http://i65.tinypic.com/scakhw.png

Regards,
Elisha Masih